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Anonymous
#941227

Anyone hear of Bernie Madoff, ripped off his friends & investors in billions, gotta do your due diligence before giving your money to complete strangers. Go with recommendations from your most trusted friends/relatives but also check past history/performance.

Don't trust anyone with your hard earned money unless you are 100% sure and even then, don't go all in until promised/expected results materialize.

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$50 M of deVere client money was recently locked down in Nigel Green's UAM Fund that he had his secretary Bev Yoemans front. International Advisor reported this astonishing news last week (May 2013). Nigel Green is no stranger to running his own funds into trouble,...
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#1529343

$50 M of deVere client money was recently locked down in Nigel Green's UAM Fund that he had his secretary Bev Yoemans front. International Advisor reported this astonishing news last week (May 2013).

Nigel Green is no stranger to running his own funds into trouble, he has a track record which is documented. I bet 90% of these clients didn't even know it was a deVere fund? DeVere have a habit of being conservative with the truth (as well we know). |Do I have to say much more, just read what deVere is all about below.

deVere claim my claim has no merit and I seriosly disagree on this. You have not made a full investigation and I will not go away until you will sit round the table and sort out your short commings. Search International Advisor- deVere $50 Million client money frozen. You'll see the backstage antics behind the scenes, but fortunately for deVere clients authorities have stepped in.

Nigel Green has taken his name off as Director (what a surprise)...

There will be much more bad news coming about these thieves, just wait and see. Monetary Loss: $50.

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Devere Group's reply to:

Devere Group - A BBC Panorama investigation into deVere's misselling

As one of the most regulated IFA’s in the world, the deVere Group strictly adheres to various international laws and procedures. Our compliance team regularly contacts our clients to ensure that all deVere Group procedures have been carried out according to company policy. With over 70,000 clients and $9 billion under advice and management, deVere Group are confident that only the very finest financial advice is provided. At no time has deVere Group been investigated by Panorama!
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#381536 Review #381536 is a subjective opinion of poster.

A BBC Panorama investigation into high commission and administration charges levied by one Nigel Green and the many companies he operates, one in particular which keeps getting negative worldwide publicity, deVere Group. Just google Devere scammers to see the truth about this shoddy outfit. Simon Pratt one of their recently resigned Directors is is hiding from the Hong Kong Tax authorities.

Spencer Lodge another disgraced Director who renagged on a charity ball bid to help Elton John's Aids Foundation. He is just about to embark on opening a international offshore brokerage up in Dubai of all places. As if Dubai didn't have enough already! DeVere currently have three offices fleecing expat's of their life savings.

These people should be on SFO most wanted list for crimes against hard working expat's. There are more names to be added to the list of international thieves of which there are many within the deVere Group.

Be warned, stay clear of the glossy deVere website, & smooth talking salesman who will give you a word perfect scripted meeting. All deVere meetings are scripted to carefully push you into an expensive front loaded retirement policy.

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#613991

This is all true you only have to looking it up, deVere can't deny the tsunami of evidence against the. This is not just disgruntled employees, it's clients talking and giving factual feedback. Deal with deVere your peril.

Don't say you haven't been warned!

Noneeded
#607563

To want to expose bad practice: send the link of this site and threads to everyone you know and ask them to keep sending forward...and just ask people to read and think twice before taking advise from anyone company listed in this site.

Anonymous
#605596

Make your own mind up about this dreadful company and the uneducated scammers that represent it. deVere have a nice flashy website but the staff are generally cheap people who will tell you anything to clinch the deal.

Remember the saying- 'Honesty is very expensive gift.

Don't expect it from cheap people!

This sums up deVere in their entirety.

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Devere Group's reply to:

Devere Group scam I went on the rip off course

New recruits are trained to become fully qualified financial advisers, fulfilling deVere’s international regulatory obligations. deVere financial advisers do not have to pay for training or office costs. Advisers do use a predetermined introduction when meeting with clients; this is done to ensure that all facts about the company are correct. The main part of the meeting consists of what we call a ‘Fact Find’. This is where a deVere adviser will ask the client a set of questions to help us build a picture of where a client is today financially and where they want to be in the future. This can be as detailed as a client wishes and tends to be different with each and every client. The adviser will then be able to offer investment suggestions in line with the client’s goals. Working in financial services isn’t for everyone, but for those who work hard and offer sound financial advice, it can be a very rewarding career.
To find out more about working with deVere, please go to www.deVeredestinations.com. To find out more about the performance of deVere Group products, please click this link - http://bit.ly/12fXwiK
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I went on the course. Interview, Joined an office in Europe and then left sharpish. Here is why.

I went to the presentation for devere and I have to say Nigel Green was mega enthusiastic about devere. He did lay it on the line about it being commission only and hard work, but he also said that I would be guaranteed two appointments a day, a coordinator when I arrived at my office and 50K in the bank within 10 weeks. I almost believed him, which was naïve and ***.

Next I had an interview was with a guy who said he was the former coordinator for Nigel Green. He was a real *** and I was a bit miffed as I had travelled a long way to Birmingham for what was in essence a 10 minute chat and a *** aptitude test for 10 yr olds, he was really only interested in whether I had the money to fund myself while abroad and that I was breathing.

Next I went on the course. It was mainly based on learning a sales pitch. I was stunned at the lack of financial training given. It was just a comedy sales course about learning a sales pitch to lead a customer into saying "˜yes' .

It would be almost impossible to fail the course. My trainer gave everyone the answers to the final day tests. The trainer on my last day sat down and he called the manager of my office and confirmed I had passed the course and that I would have a coordinator on arrival.

I started as an IFA not a coordinator. I arrived at my office a couple of weeks later. There were terrible morale issues from the start. Staff were coming and going all over the show, arguing and shouting. There was unbelievable racial abuse towards one black and one asian coordinator by the managers. I was told on the training course I would get help with finding accommodation but when I arrived I was simply chucked a couple of rental website links and told to get on with it. Contrary to what I was told at the presentation, interview and by the trainers, I was told by my office manager I would only get a coordinator after a couple of months and in the meantime, I was handed a list of 100 or so people to cold call and get some appointments for myself. After I had spent the 100 names I was to then find my own clients and was offered no help from anyone apart from some sympathy from some of the other guys in the same boat.

I was told by my manager that I would have to contribute towards office costs which I had no idea about before I arrived. I was told that the training course was free but my manager told me that I had to pay an additional 5% of my commission away on my first few deals to pay for the cost of the course and hotel. Most of the guys in the office said you would only get support once you started earning. It wasn't a good atmosphere. Most just felt they had been sold up the river and everyone was backstabbing everyone else. Some of us newbies would go to the pub after work and laugh about how we were tricked, honestly, you couldn't make it up.

I left devere within a short period because of all the deceit. Ok, all companies make things look a little brighter to get you on board but devere are n a different league and I had a problem working for a company that was happily willing to deceived me from the very beginning starting with the MD in that presentation. This might be the problem; the deceit comes from the top down. This isn't a company you can trust.

The final straw was watching as the manager and a so-called IFA laughed came back from an appointment having taken some guy for 10K in commission for a plan he didn't need and (as they pointed out with more laughs) was underperforming anyway. I didn't think there were really people like that but devere had plenty of them.

Now don't get me wrong, there were one or two guys in that office earning good money but in all honestly, even they agreed with me that within devere there was a culture of lies and deception and you had to put your conscience away in a locked room because you were taking clients for a commission rollercoaster ride. Most people were struggling big time and some had some frightening financial problems spending lots but not earning. Remember devere give you nothing, you pay for everything and some people didn't want to let go because they kept thinking the next deal was just around the corner. I met one guy who had spent near 15K chasing his illusive next sale! During my short spell 7 IFAs left and 6 coordinators walked all broke.

I spent about 3K on my trip and didn't make a bean. I had already decided it was gambling money, set my limit and I was prepared to lose it if it went wrong. I blame myself more than anything for not questioning some of the info I was given which always sounded a bit iffy. The trouble is you are blinded by the thought of earning all that money and it distorts your reasoning, but as one of the guys said to me "If you don't believe anything you are told, then you wont be disappointed'.

My advice for what it is worth is that for a chosen few it will be a risk worth taking but proceed with extreme caution and only do this if you have money you are willing and prepared to lose if it doesn't work out. Whether you make it or not, this isn't your average IFA business in fact it's not an IFA business it's just a sales outfit in IFA clothes. If you think you are walking into a professional IFA company, think again, it's just a direct sales company selling financial products that are poor performing and high paying in commission. Remember the products they sell abroad are banned in the UK. Ask yourself why.

So if you do go for it you have a 10% chance of making money and 90% chance of going broke but if you do want to make it, be sure you leave your morale's at home because you won't need them at devere

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#683502

OMG! Doesn't it just say everything when devere group IFA buy the domain name: deveregroupscam.com to get to the top of Google to try avoid the real negative results.

Surely, that's a devere own goal for anyone looking at investing with them who has any sense? Theses guys are so desperate to hide comments it beggars belief.

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#682201

If someone has invested a single penny in this company in spite of all the websites of complaints, videos and a clear history of dubious acts of this company, HE or SHE deserves to get ***...you have been warned...the same goes to those taking up a job with this company...

Anonymous
#682060

Absolutely true and accurate. I have met Nigel Green and was an employee when the UAM fund was suspended.

The reason it was suspended? Well, originally set up to mirror 2 JP Morgan funds (so in essence completely unnecessary as you could just buy the funds directly and save yourself paying commission to your "adviser"), at some point in time it decided to step out of its remit entirely and invest in risky property assets. When the rumor came out that the fund was suspending, there was a (futile) rush to pull clients out, but it so happens that this was impossible due to Nigel Green and Mike Coady (both directors) getting preferential treatment allowing them to pull their funds out before every one of their clients. Treating customers fairly?

HHmmmmmmm I will let you decide. I have seen advisers "guarentee" returns of 10% per year, 100% immediate uplift in value when transferring a pension into a QROPS, its criminal what they are doing. I worked as an advisor for 2 months before needing to leave due to the massive hole in my pocket and conscience.

Dispicable company that relies on its international status and transient nature of its client base to avoid repercussion (after all if you get in a bit of a sticky situation, all you do is close down in that country as they did in Belgium and Cyprus or change your name and company structure) It makes me sick that people like this exist, honestly, stealing from pensioners just before retirement. They should do us all a favor and jump off a very tall building

Anonymous
#674352

I disagree as im doing this now and im flying high, seems to me that you just wernt cut out to be successful

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@PissedConsumer674352

Really Ronaldo? Because I still have access to the deVere weekly sales figures and I have never seen your initials there. Also, to be cut out for success at deVere you must be seriously lacking in morals, you and I both know this, and if you don't, you will eventually.

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#661928

Starhollow. I admire your efforts to get the truth out about devere group but I worked for them in Europe and they simple had caller withheld when dialing out.

They knew full well it was illegal but also knew it would be pretty much impossible to pin this on them without proof of a call coming in from them.

The practices in the office I worked at would be criminal in the UK but they are slippery conmen. I could fill you in on lots of info about them but at the end of the day you need evidence.

Anonymous
#661904

A bunch of us in our office had random calls from them, they would not say who referred them to us without meeting us in person.

They are thieves, steer well clear.

Patrick O
#661916
@PissedConsumer661904

could you please PM me your contact information? I am collecting proof of the illegal cold-calling activities in Germany in order to have the Bundesnetzagentur (authority supervising this) place a 50.000 EUR fine on them for constantly violating German consumer protection laws with their cold-calling.

And yes, stay away from them....most what they do is not legal in Germany and not even remotely considered to be "advice". Cheerio

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#655992

I just don't get how people are still investing with these guys.

So the UAM fund, owned until recently by Nigel Green, the CEO devere, and now run by Beverely Yeomans, a devere PA, has gone under with £50Million of clients money.

So the devere sales force were flogging a fund that the boss owned! So, no conflict of interest then. Of course this isn't the only fund he has had interests in. Anyone remember the imperial consolidated fund he was involved with, that lost investors £250million in 2002.

I'm sorry to say that the only winner here is Nigel Green, and there are going to be a lot of unhappy investors with big losses.

But then why would you place your investment with a firm wholly unregulated outside of the UK and with commission only salesmen with double glazing backgrounds. Quite amazing how a good sales script and flashy website can extract cash from expats across the world.

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#655597

The *** score looks to be a good guide to how much this complaint has hit a nerve. All the sales reps clicking away... :grin

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Devere Group's reply to:

Devere Group - Devere Stole My Pension

All investments carry an element of risk, we help prepare our clients for the positives and negatives that investments may produce. deVere Group are IFA's and as such we introduce our clients to top performing funds. We do not manage money ourselves. STM is a UK listed trust company in which the general public are free to own shares. Pensions transferred to Malta/Gibraltar or other locations can be transferred to other locations if required. 
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#328771 Review #328771 is a subjective opinion of poster.

I wish I could have found this site before letting those lying cheating *** anywhere near my pension. I have since found out that I was fed a pack of lies by the Devere salesman.

I have seen my pension plummet in value because it's been put in investments that Nigel Green has a hand. To top that off they've put my pension in Nigel Green s Malta company STM where I will be liable to pay considerable tax when I start taking my benefits, this is because the country I am retiring to doesn't have a double taxation agreement with Malta.

This and many other important things I have since found out, the salesman forgot to mention.

Take my advice for what it's worth-do not entertain anyone from that dreadful company, they just tell you what they think you want to hear-period.

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#607574

To want to expose bad practice: send the link of this site and threads to everyone you know and ask them to keep sending forward...and just ask people to read and think twice before taking advise from anyone company listed in this site.

Anonymous
#524774

I personally have a friend who did a STM Malta QROPS with deVere, so far he's down 30% the salesman doesn't work there anymore, hey keep changing his funds around earning more commissions. He was told by deVere that they could passport his QROPS to another domicile after everything had settled down with Channel islands.

What a bunch of scammers this lot are. He said he never gets a straight answer from them.

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#522469

I don't think one can say don't transfer to Malta as a blanket statement as it is a perfectly valid jurisdiction. There are other firms operating in the market.

I think this is a niche market for the well off, those that have quality advisers and have all their international tax affairs up to date and can afford the extra tax compliance fees that will accrue in Malta.This is not a product for the mass market so caveat emptor.

Bear in mind that the QROPS rules in Malta do not allow self-investment, unlike the UK cousin (Self Invested Personal Pension) which might be more appropriate for sophisticated investors. However, as SIPPs are FSA regulated, only UK IFAs with the appropriate pension transfer permissions should advise in this market.

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#522428

You are right about the Malta QROPS, problem is because Nigel Green owns a large stake in STM Devere are placing all their clients in this scheme. Definitely wrong for the client if they knew all the implications about DTA also what you've just mentioned about having to submit an annual tax return, who wants to do that?

@ justification- your name must be Justin and you premote Boston Fund Platform right? This fund platform just doesn't have enough decent funds which is why I use a bond and select my own funds. Admittedly BF has over 5,000 funds but how many of those are actually used, not many..

If anyone is reading this that is being told to transfer their pension to Malta, please, for your own sake, don't do it. Look at Hong Kong and walk away from the IFA that's recommending Malta, he doesn't know what he's talking about, typical Devere one would say.

Anonymous
#521903

I think the rush to Malta might be dampened by the new Maltese proposals for all QROPS members, whether resident in Malta or elsewhere.

All members, even non Malta residents, will need to complete a tax return every year in Malta. What is that going to cost?

The thing is, that before any pension monies can be taken, the member is going to have to prove where he/she is tax resident or the income won't be paid.

No more hiding under the tax radar for some expats here then is there?

Cracking bit of legislation by the Maltese to stop tax evasion.

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#521804

Do you work for an offshore insurance group? The discounted funds and protection comments are their standard phrases. If there are discounts, then no doubt the bond is set up on a nil commission basis and the cost savings passed onto the client.Do you think that funds are not chopped and changed within bonds? Do you think that commission is not taken on both the bond and the structured notes within the bond?

I cannot see any justification for using a bond in a QROPS. Do all bonds have proper FX possibilities?

An independent platform on an agreed fee basis with the client, with no commissions being generated on switches, might be a better option for QROPS.

Anonymous
#521716

There is lots of justification to using an investment bond, severely discounted funds, lots of protection to name a couple. If you put a clients pension lets say directly linked to a trading platform (as it happens devere have one of these) that has over 5,000 funds + some expensive 4% entry structured notes, it would end up costing the client much more money.

Devere like to do this because they chop and change the funds around which generates more income for Devere at great expense to the client I may add.

Anything Devere, run like a dog!

Anonymous
#517457

de Vere Group disappeared from their London Knightsbridge office. Personally I doubt whether - as "Claude", July 12th mentions - that they treat UK clients any better.

After all, as the FSA told me directly they do not come under the FSA umbrella and therefore not under the FSA compensation scheme.

I was not even aware there had been a "cooling off" period when the lying, swindling agent sold me a loss-maker.

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STM are part owned by... Wait for it.. Nigel Green. How can Devere be giving impartial independent advice if they are placing you in products they have a vested interest? They do this with their funds which they get paid much higher commissions on also. The STM Malta QROPS is not the right product for many of the Devere customers that they have placed their life savings in, simply because if the country you end up retiring to doesn't have a double taxation agreement with Malta you could end up paying up to 55% tax on any drawdown. The Devere sales Rep probably forgot to mention this right?

They talk about pass prying your QROPS in the future to other QROPS destinations, what a load of B...ocks. They are boiler room scam artists of the highest order. I know this because I was involved in their organization for many years. All their meetings are scripted, this you lean at Malta on the training course before you go to country of destination.

Devere do not pay salaries, in some countries you will get an advance against commissions only, this is monitored very closely because if it looks like you have no business coming in they will not pay you. You have to pay for everything including the toilet rolls, heating, air ***, lighting, office rent, this is all deducted in the office costs they charge you every month. They are the worse commission payers in the industry, you will be left with very little if any money, in fact you will probably owe them money which is like being beholden to the devil.

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#511352

Which seems to indicate the only reason they ostensibly treat their UK customers fairly is because the FSA says they must. Must decent reputable companies define their own standards and resolution process. Not Devere - they don't care about their customers, they see them simply as a source of one time revenue.

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#641994

Senior Wealth Manager at DeVere Limassol is having an affair with his co-ordinator. Dirty Dog!!

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Devere Group - DeVere (aka Nigel Green) fraud, scam and sexual harassment
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#478255

Sounds like you will do well at devere my friend, fighting talk is something they know well. Just make sure you have enough money (at least 15k) and don't say you have not been warned or seen the writing on the wall.

Good luck, you'll certainly need lots of that.

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